Curse

X89 · Apr 07, 2008, 06:03 PM // 18:03

What's to debate? Kite more suck less, end thread.

Jetdoc · Apr 07, 2008, 06:11 PM // 18:11

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Originally Posted by Randvek

For every person kiting, there's most likely someone in reach.

...and that person in reach should begin kiting when the toucher starts his attack.

That's why touchers are so effective...very few people kite in the game when simply everyone should know when to do so.

Randvek · Apr 07, 2008, 06:14 PM // 18:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetdoc

...and that person in reach should begin kiting when the toucher starts his attack.

That's why touchers are so effective...very few people kite in the game when simply everyone should know when to do so.

Agreed. Touchers fail when everyone kites, but all it takes it one person failing to do so and it turns into a real pain in the butt build.

Trvth Jvstice · Apr 07, 2008, 07:12 PM // 19:12

So from the comments so far, the Touch Ranger build is so powerful and deadly that the only viable counter is to snare them and run away. If that were true then every team would have one, just to keep the other team running and scrambling to keep the dreaded Touch Ranger away. Of course this isn't true, but if one were to read this thread, not knowing anything about the build, they would probably immediately go and build a Toucher.

ender6 · Apr 07, 2008, 07:16 PM // 19:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice

So from the comments so far, the Touch Ranger build is so powerful and deadly that the only viable counter is to snare them and run away. If that were true then every team would have one, just to keep the other team running and scrambling to keep the dreaded Touch Ranger away. Of course this isn't true, but if one were to read this thread, not knowing anything about the build, they would probably immediately go and build a Toucher.

No, the comments so far allude to the fact that the Toucher is so worthless that it can be completely overcome via kiting.

There is no debate here.

Tyla · Apr 07, 2008, 07:17 PM // 19:17

Cripshot, Freezing Gust ect ect...
Besides, snares are powerful. Very.

And general kiting > touchers.

shironos · Apr 07, 2008, 07:18 PM // 19:18

I agree Toucher's are a horrible build for rangers to run, but i think the main reason they do run is because of the armor ignoring life stealing damage therefore we get all these noobs runnign around yelling "hahahahahhaa 1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2" but i find myself killing them for kicks on my sin as they are so easy to kite with siphon speed ( i mainly use them to get the half recharge on it) but they come up to me thinking they can block my with their stances but any Shattering Assault sin can win against'em hands down.... Touchers suck, gg.

Tyla · Apr 07, 2008, 07:22 PM // 19:22

They really run it because it's brainless and it looks good on paper.
And can't designate whether it's good or bad...

Coloneh · Apr 07, 2008, 09:37 PM // 21:37

touchers work in AB/RA because gadawful players stand next to them even when they are crippled. idiots need a fix, not touchers.

lacasner · Apr 07, 2008, 10:19 PM // 22:19

Touchers are just griefers/kind of brainded players that get their daily "lols" from annoying other people. Avoid Ra/Ab if u dont want to see these guys.

Trvth Jvstice · Apr 07, 2008, 10:58 PM // 22:58

I've never tried them but at one time, Touchers were considered a good Ranger build - like Bunny Thumpers. I left GW for a year and came back full force about 2 months ago - and Touchers were a "lol noob touch ranger!" build. What happened in the year I was gone? -Though I think just before I stopped playing people were already starting to look down on the build. I know people will learn to adapt and overcome any gimmick build, but the disdain people have towards Touchers is as bad as Arcane Echoed Life Transfer builds.

EDIT: Wiki FTW! - GuildWiki alludes to a Touch Ranger nerf and linked a cool, but old youtube video. Team Fun VS Idiot Savants

GaaaaaH · Apr 08, 2008, 01:06 AM // 01:06

i still run toucher in AB for some easy faction and still get kills 80% of the time. i counter the counter (switch away from kiters), but a counter exists that anyone can do and requires no equiped skills/class - KITING and TEAMWORK. ganking a toucher works well too.

Before you flame, i play for fun and dont care about been 1337z0r, and do cap shrines as much as possible.

If a nerf was going to occur, why not changer the funtionality or damage scale (less damage) so that necros gain more than a toucher would?

Voodoo Rage · Apr 08, 2008, 11:10 PM // 23:10

I use a touch build a lot in PvE because I can just bang on a couple of keys on the keyboard while watching television, my kids, and maintaining a conversation with my wife...

Nightmares Hammer · Apr 08, 2008, 11:13 PM // 23:13

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Originally Posted by netniwk

There is a reason it's only used in ra/ab....

QFT

I laugh at Touchers.

Ekelon · Apr 08, 2008, 11:15 PM // 23:15

[skill]"Can't Touch this!"[/skill]

Here's the music to listen to while you think about touch rangers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMzoBkaFxh4

Coloneh · Apr 09, 2008, 03:35 AM // 03:35

"cant touch this" is a joke. all it does is cost the toucher up to 10 energy. plauge touch is a useful skill

Molock · Apr 09, 2008, 04:37 AM // 04:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by FluffyBunny007

gogo diversion! yay toucher rage

So true, most touchers are actually bad players. The other day I managed to Divert both touch skills and stood there as he wanded me raging

Really, touchers don't need to be nerfed because they don't actually do THAT much damage, are easy to shutdown and actually aren't very popular anymore.

The.D0pefish · Apr 09, 2008, 04:48 AM // 04:48

Touchers were imba in the meta of pre-nightfall days.
Now they aren't able to seriously pressure a well played WoH-Hybrid and don't have the ability to counter the dmg of a whole team with their life stealing skills.
Most (i say most, maybe some play it just for fun) of the player of this build do just fail at pvp (ZomFG!!!!1111 ---- you Monk runner!!!).

Quote:

idiots need a fix, not touchers.

well said dude...

Nightmares Hammer · Apr 09, 2008, 10:41 AM // 10:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekelon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMzoBkaFxh4

Hammer Time!

illidan009 · Feb 24, 2009, 01:31 AM // 01:31

EDIT: Shit i rezzed a thread sorry don't ban.